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of tactical mistakes, but, charlie, this is something the progressives in the united states have been trying to achieve since the progressive party bull moose party platform of 1912, 100 years, seven presidents tried, including some republicans, none succeeded until barack obama. and i asked the president, your advisors were against this, why did you do it? and he said, well i told nancy pelle cy i may not get re-elected if i did this and so i repeated the question, why did you do it. >> if we didn't do it now it wouldn't have happened and to me that is the mark of a president who is showing leadership. you might not like it. >> rose: yes. >> but it is leadership. >> rose: i would say the following, john, i hear you and i know all of that, i have heard that conversation, i believe with a that even though he said i might not get re-elected he didn't for a moment believe that he would not get re-elected because his own confidence in himself was so strong. >> absolutely true. yes, he is extremely self-confident individual. >> even at this moment he understands intellectually the challenge and
's the president of the united states. i think it would be irresponsible not to. >> i think it was shocking omission for romney. i thought fred hide's column in washington post was right on. we have a hot war going on right now in the month of august. i think close to 60 people, 60 americans died in afghanistan. >> charlie:did they have an explanation for that? >> the oam explanation he talked about it the day before in a speech in minneapolis. no one saw t most reporters didn't see. >> charlie:someone said one mention of afghanistan. >> i think that's right. it's not a popular topic even in that room con vengs with these delegates. spending is such a concern. too much money isn't spent on the war. it wouldn't have been a upon lar thing. i still think he could have thanked the troops for their service. that's not controversial. that's a patriotic thing to do. i think it's one of those mysteries of the convention almost as mysterious as clint eastwood he's the only one that mentioned afghanistan on that final evening. >> charlie:how does that the obama team feel about rekindling of 2008. i h
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